Saturday, October 10, 2009

Re: Obama's Nobel Peace Prize (A Facebook Status Update Debate)

Tommy S. If you can’t understand why Obama won the Nobel Prize, you’re just not paying attention. 3 hours ago • Comment • Like 6 people like this. Paul C. I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed something. They voted months ago for it. Hmmmm. 3 hours ago Christine D. Yup apparentlly I wasn’t paying attention either. 3 hours ago L.L. ya’ll remember election night when the whole world had a party? when people gained some hope and trust about what was possible? repeat: the whole world had a party on election night, just by getting into office, obama created a shift n folks outlook. he’s actually had a bigger impact than most peace prize winners, just on election night. 2 hours ago Roni Weiss I dunno… I think there is a legitimate argument for others over him. I don’t agree with the rationale of giving someone an award so they continue what they are doing. about an hour ago • Delete Suzan E. Per our conversation last night, I now agree with you… It’s a high level peace… But I believe that, by your rationale, it is the American voters who, ultimately, should have been awarded the prize. about an hour ago L.L. peace prizes are only given to people so they can continue doing what they are doing, unless given posthumously about an hour ago Roni Weiss Ok, make sure Mandela keeps working on that apartheid thing. about an hour ago • Delete Roni Weiss And there is a vast different between rewarding someone with something they would like to do and something they have actually done. about an hour ago • Delete L.L. actually mandela continued to work for his country even after apartheid officially ended. and obama really did get elected, inspiring billions of people of color, who’s history has been shaped by the forces of imperialism and colonization, that the biggest most powerful country in the world elected someone more like them and less like the ones who impoverished them. and yes, he has and will continue to speak in an inclusive, human and rational way across borders… 36 minutes ago L.L. According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize should be awarded “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” the middle one he’s still got some work on, but he’s done the other two in a huge way. 35 minutes ago Roni Weiss My main disagreement has been with their explanation as to why they gave it to him. It feels anticipatory as opposed to based on actual efforts and accomplishments. 32 minutes ago • Delete Roni Weiss And in the end, I disagree with the idea that all that needs to be done to get a Peace Prize is to make speeches, as opposed to concrete steps. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan continue. Israel and Palestine are still in an unending problem. Carbon reduction hasn’t been agreed upon. North Korea and Iran are still potential nuclear states… I don’t disagree with that he could earn it, but I think it’s premature…. Read More 24 minutes ago • Delete L.L. roni, dude, it’s easier for you to travel internationally. thus you are experiencing and observing Peace. despite your own experience and observations, you choose to see obama getting a peace prize as a point of contention. you are a Fox news wet dream. 12 minutes ago Roni Weiss 2006: People bitching about Bush. 2009: People not bitching about Bush. I don’t see that being a peace issue. 10 minutes ago • Delete L.L. ok roni, you’re right. the world is no better now than in 2006. have a nice day. 3 minutes ago Roni Weiss ~shrugs~ You’ve misconstrued my comments and have gone out of your way to insult me for pretty much no good reason, I think the discussion is over. about a minute ago • Delete

Tommy S. If you can’t understand why Obama won the Nobel Prize, you’re just not paying attention.

3 hours ago • Comment • Like

6 people like this.

Paul C.

I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed something. They voted months ago for it. Hmmmm.

3 hours ago

Christine D.

Yup apparentlly I wasn’t paying attention either.

3 hours ago

L.L.

ya’ll remember election night when the whole world had a party? when people gained some hope and trust about what was possible? repeat: the whole world had a party on election night, just by getting into office, obama created a shift n folks outlook. he’s actually had a bigger impact than most peace prize winners, just on election night.

2 hours ago

Roni Weiss

I dunno… I think there is a legitimate argument for others over him. I don’t agree with the rationale of giving someone an award so they continue what they are doing.

about an hour ago • Delete

Suzan E.

Per our conversation last night, I now agree with you… It’s a high level peace… But I believe that, by your rationale, it is the American voters who, ultimately, should have been awarded the prize.

about an hour ago

L.L.

peace prizes are only given to people so they can continue doing what they are doing, unless given posthumously

about an hour ago

Roni Weiss

Ok, make sure Mandela keeps working on that apartheid thing.

about an hour ago • Delete

Roni Weiss

And there is a vast different between rewarding someone with something they would like to do and something they have actually done.

about an hour ago • Delete

L.L.

actually mandela continued to work for his country even after apartheid officially ended. and obama really did get elected, inspiring billions of people of color, who’s history has been shaped by the forces of imperialism and colonization, that the biggest most powerful country in the world elected someone more like them and less like the ones who impoverished them. and yes, he has and will continue to speak in an inclusive, human and rational way across borders…

36 minutes ago

L.L.

According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize should be awarded “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” the middle one he’s still got some work on, but he’s done the other two in a huge way.

35 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

My main disagreement has been with their explanation as to why they gave it to him. It feels anticipatory as opposed to based on actual efforts and accomplishments.

32 minutes ago • Delete

Roni Weiss

And in the end, I disagree with the idea that all that needs to be done to get a Peace Prize is to make speeches, as opposed to concrete steps.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan continue. Israel and Palestine are still in an unending problem. Carbon reduction hasn’t been agreed upon. North Korea and Iran are still potential nuclear states…

I don’t disagree with that he could earn it, but I think it’s premature…. Read More

24 minutes ago • Delete

L.L.

roni, dude, it’s easier for you to travel internationally. thus you are experiencing and observing Peace. despite your own experience and observations, you choose to see obama getting a peace prize as a point of contention. you are a Fox news wet dream.

12 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

2006: People bitching about Bush.

2009: People not bitching about Bush.

I don’t see that being a peace issue.

10 minutes ago • Delete

L.L.

ok roni, you’re right. the world is no better now than in 2006. have a nice day.

3 minutes ago

Roni Weiss

~shrugs~ You’ve misconstrued my comments and have gone out of your way to insult me for pretty much no good reason, I think the discussion is over.

about a minute ago • Delete

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